November
16, 2010
Grinsteinner
testified that when Sandy Blunt returned to WSI, she believed she would be
fired because she had taken an issue regarding Blunt to the audit chair in
early 2007 and thought she might face retaliation. It was a question of a firefighter's grant
that Sandy Blunt had approved $100,000 even though there was no program in
place for that grant at that time.
Tuntland
turned to the issue of the ITTP project and introduced a document that showed
the internal auditor would be involved because of the size of the program and
the risk involved.
Tuntland
then asked about the contact information allegedly given to Dave Spencer. She said people were complaining about
Spencer approaching them for grant writing, that employers were contacting her
with complaints. She asked if management
could write a letter to Spencer telling him his actions were
inappropriate.
Tuntland
then turned to an email Grinsteinner had sent to the state auditors called the
dirty little secret email where she alleged improprieties in claim
handling. There was a discussion as to
the exact date of a Brady Martz study and when it had been released.
Tuntland
established that the Marsh report referred to a rejection rate of 12 of 84
claims studied, which meant a 14% rejection rate.
Grinsteinner
testified she had made a report to the board and stated that she was writing as
a concerned citizen of North Dakota. She said she had done so because that term
was used by WSI under their Carver model of governance and she was trying to
frame it in context of this being a governance issue.
She also
said that Connolly was not credentialed to review internal audit functions,
that he was an attorney, but not a CPA and that she was surprised about his
questions. She said that he immediately
told her that her letter to the board, which had outlined specific concerns
about WSI, was insubordinate and that she had no right to have written that as
a citizen of North Dakota. Grinsteinner said she felt that he was not
trying to fact find, but rather push an agenda.
As to the
issue of personnel records, she said she was concerned that many employees were
telling her their personnel files were being released but they were not being
informed of that.
Tuntland
asked about a meeting she'd had at Famous Dave's with Long after the Armstrong
search when NorthDecoder.com's Chad Nodland came in. She said she could recall the meeting but
she'd never met Nodland, that she thought discussions centered around the
journal as that was the topic of the day, but that she was in shock over the
whole matter and could not recall specifics.
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